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Postby answer01 on Mon Aug 17, 2009 8:43 pm

What needs to be done to get this track headed back in the right direction. It seems over the past 5 years it gradually was getting better. Slowly at times but definitely better. All of a sudden this year the track is back to square one.

Lets think of some things to get this track back in the right direction. Paul needs our help and we all have a stake in this track. What can be done to move things in a positive direction to finish out the 2009 season AND BEYOND.
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Postby Todd on Tue Aug 18, 2009 5:27 am

People have been talking about that kind of stuff on here all year. I don't know what else can be said or suggested.
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Postby flagman on Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:24 am

todd, frist thing paul need to do is stop whinning he is going broke,the last i knew just about everyone their dont get paid ,so where is all the money going.second:he need to talk to each class and listen to what they think about their classbefore he makes new rules.third:scoring is a big deal,he needs more help with this and when a driver stops at the flag stand they should take a second look at the line up,i know it takes time but they put the show on and that is why we are here.but what do i knowi am not a driver!!!
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Postby Gitter on Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:28 am

misunderstood
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Postby Karmageddon on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:20 pm

To quote flagman:
second:he need to talk to each class and listen to what they think about their class before he makes new rules


If you read the last line in the general rules it states:
RULES SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE


Which means rules can be added and or changed at anytime during the season, without discussion with the drivers. That is one problem I can see with the track at this time, drivers think they can always get what they want in the rules or taken out of the rules. Drivers do not make the rules, they are supposed to follow the rules that are laid out by the track officials.
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Postby R VanTassel on Tue Aug 18, 2009 12:47 pm

I agree with you Rob, but let me add one thing. Drivers should not be allowed to pick and choose the rules they want to follow and the ones they want to disreguard. This goes for the track also enforce them all. If the rule is changed for any reason put it in writing and enforce it. Don't let drivers or owners change your mind.
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AIS Leadership

Postby Frank Fazio on Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:09 pm

All I have to say is that Billy Gibson and Myself did all we could to make AIS improve. Paul would want to change thin gs on us and we would try to convince him that our idea was the right thing to do some times this worked sometimes not. Paul and I had a difference of opinion this spring and I felt it was time for me to move on.

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Postby flagman on Tue Aug 18, 2009 6:43 pm

rob,you are doing a good jod ,but what i ment was talk to the drivers they might have a good idea.you know tech good and been good to a lot of people.i just want to see this track grow and more fans in the stands
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Postby Karmageddon on Tue Aug 18, 2009 8:54 pm

Thank you flagman. I would really like to see the track grow also.
One major area that needs to be fixed though is the rules. There are too many gray areas in the rules at this point. That is one part of my job as the tech inspector is to "fix" rules so that they are more black and white. I am not trying to step on toes or single anyone out when I want to "fix" the rules.
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Postby answer01 on Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:55 am

Kar: it sounds like your passionate towards your position at AIS and that is refreshing to see. but, as a tech inspector you need to know that it isn't "OK" to change the rules overnight. I remember when bill gibson was here he at least gave some notice if there were rules revisions or changes in store. although i didn't agree with changing the rules he at least gave people a week or 2 to get it right. in other words, he admitted the tracks mistake and gave people a week or 2 to make it right. Frank worked with the different parties as well while he was here. as for paul, dont let him push you around...you need to stand for what is right. also - rules are rules. our old tech inspector hockey would turn the other cheek every night again and again (if he spotted anyhting that is). even the track officials were irritated over him but as far as i knew they oculdnt find anyone to replace him.

also frank it sure is noticable to see the difference from when you and bill were here.. when he showed up you 2 changed a lot of thigns for the better at the track.
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Postby Karmageddon on Wed Aug 19, 2009 8:56 pm

Answer01 if the rule change that I wanted to add would take some work to do then I would allow some amount of time. But, if it is something simple that a driver or crew could do in a matter of minutes, there is no reason why they could not have it taken care of for the week the rule is put out.
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Postby flagman on Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:04 am

rob,thats the way to do it .easy rule just fix it,hard rule give a little time.thats how we work together and what will make any track get better.but you know that their will be a few people that only want it their way,but the way to do it is together(their might be hope for all of us) :lol: :lol:
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Postby TJ400 on Thu Aug 20, 2009 12:40 pm

To make ais a beter place you need a GENERAL MANAGER, a RACE DIRECTOR, and a few more eys on the track. You need to stick to the rules. DO NOT BEND THE RULES FOR SOME like i have seen this year. Make the same calls for every one. If a driver is in the wrong DQ that driver. AIS you can not let people walk all over you get, a back bone and take care of the issues we have at this track.

I belive that this track is a great thing for this area but you need to get the management up to par first. Ais has a great team of people that cares about the track and will do every thing to make it work. It seems to me that you are pushing them away. Soon there will be no one.

I am not sure how many teams have left this year do to the way things are being run. Come on AIS lets find a way to get the rest of the year done great and make people want to come back.

I am not on here to bash the track just want to see it surive. :D

YOUR PIT STEWARD

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Speaking From Experience

Postby Gears1 on Sat Aug 22, 2009 12:04 pm

I was one of the oldest employees at AIS. I devoted many hours of extra work to the speedway, bringing in quality help, working every weekend around the speedway, contacting new sponsors, and developing new forms of entertainment with my assigned job and information through my weekly column. There was no one more dedicated to Paul Lyndakers AIS then me.
In the end Paul refused to pay me, had ran off just about everyone that we had helped bring to speedway, and replaced us with many that really are not qulified for their current positions. When I think back at the nights we would come 70 miles to here Paul's "I have a dream" speach he gave at every meeting and then work all friday night around the Speedway for nothing it just sickens mei Paul use to tell us, in so many words, it was kind of a privilege to work at AIS. Maybe we should have been paying him??
Looking back on one of my high points at AIS, I first helped Billy Gibson when he came to AIS. I could see the potential in this kid. If Paul would have sat in the stands and took care of the PR with the fans and let Billy run the show AIS would have had one hell of a great base by now. Unfortunatly, Paul was un-willing to do this. Paul was also unwillng to admit that guys like Gibson, Meachum, Florik, (Who were all GM's at AIS) were a little more than just smarter then he was when it came to running AIS. Yes, Paul was the boss and owned AIS. That doesn't mean he knows what he's doing. AIS could have been the greatest race facility in New York State if the right people would have been left in place. Now it seems AIS is only holding on by a thread.
I remember for a few seasons, back when we stated a show it always reminded me of a dozen broken eggs. By the time Wayne Hall dropped the green it was becomng a beautiful omlet. By feature time it was cook and ready to serve. That staff from that era at AIS could work mircials, if needed. Beleve me we did on many a night.
As far as the rule book, this use to be setup at the begining of the season. Once it's done, it should be done, for that year. No exceptions. No special back door favors to anyone. Look why Lee Gil left. Lee read the rule book the way it was written, AIS had screwed up. It should have stayed the way it was written for that season. Instead, AIS loses one of it's best race teams and a very BIG sponsor. I don't know if the Gills ever returned to race at AIS but I know that entire situation had me scratching my head.
I guess I can only hope that AIS will turn around some day. Maybe when the current owners is replaced with the next owner. I hope this will clear the air on why the Speedway was running better a few seasons ago, and not doing so well now.
In closing, I just want to thank many of the people that worked so hard for Paul's beloved AIS. my hats off to all of you.
Bob Florick, Sheldon Meachum, Billy Gibson, Wayne Hall, Jim & Kitrina Salmons, Frank Fazio, Lynn & Cindy Shaw, Elwyn Bodley & Barb,
the Wilcox family, and a incredable number of volunteers. Again, If I mssed your name Im sorry, but thank's for the memories.
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